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Wednesday, June 10, 2015

News: JBL Xtreme coming soon - blown up JBL Charge 2?


Mediamarkt Netherlands posted another interesting video showing a supposedly new speaker similar to the JBL Charge 2 or rather Infinity One: the JBL "Xtreme". Similar to the JBL Flip 3 the JBL Xtreme will be water proof and have the ability to connect with multiple speakers wirelessly thanks to JBL connect, but what makes it extreme, is either the extreme sound quality as claimed in the video, or the fact that it can charge 2 devices at once!

It looks a bit as if this model was indeed based on the Infinity One with quite a similar form-factor and the same carrying lugs at the top. Instead of the useless rear drivers from the Infinity One JBL/Harman seem to have included tweeters this time as the blueprint rendering below would suggest. Maybe they finally noticed the overly strong intermodulation distortion of the Infinity One as well? This is what you get when little fullrange drivers are pushed too hard to deliver both high and low-end at the same time!


With all those new releases this is going to become a pretty interesting summer if all these videos are not fake but really showing leaked upcoming JBL products. No price nor availabilty yet, but the JBL Xtreme could be a new benchmark even outperforming the Infinity One among most other contenders in its class.

36 comments:

  1. There seems to be what it looks like a zipper in the back, where the ports are. Interesting... But I do wonder how it will match up against the Charge 2+, soundwise. I hope it won't be something similar to the UE Megaboom and it will end up sounding just like a boomier and louder version of the Charge 2+.

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    1. I rather think it is based on the Infinity One not the JBL Charge 2, therefore it should definitely pack some punch, the Infinity One was quite a bit more mature sounding than the smaller Charge 2. What you think is a zip is probably a flap to protect the ports, something the so called "water proof" JBL Charge 2+ doesn't have.

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    2. Yes, I recall you mentioning here that there's no rubber flap on the Charge 2+ and also pointing it out on your recent comparative video. I've noticed your thoughts on the Infinity One on YouTube, but since it's not available in Europe (I think), I never considered its purchase. But having a sort of "revamped" Infinity One, judging by your comments on the actual Infinity One, it's something I'm definitely looking forward to. I hope you'll be able to get your hands on one of these (if they prove to be real) and do all sorts of sound tests and comparisons with it.

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    3. Still there's a conceptual difference between the two: the Infinity One has 4 drivers, two facing front and two facing back, while this one seems to have two full range and two tweeters all facing the same direction. I've never joined the "360 degree sound" bandwagon so for me this is a better arrangement ;D

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    4. True, but the back drivers of the Infinity One didn't produce any treble at all, I am still not quite sure why they were there in reality. They might have added a bit of ambience to the sound, but the sound was still very directional, treble got lost if not listened on axis.
      I hope real tweeters will be better this time, I was quite impressed by the even sound dispersion of the Beoplay A2 thanks to some tweeters built in. Hardly any treble loss even from very strong angles.

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    5. Exactly, proper tweeters are usually built like "domes" to have a better spread of sound. Low frequency drivers don't need to be dome shaped because low frequencies are far less directional.

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    6. There is a guy named "clavinetjunkie" on YouTube.He already did a review on the JBL Xtreme and all I can say is that the sound is phenomenal !! If you guys want to see the video ill put a link under this paragraph.You guys should check it out, it's awesome !

      https://youtu.be/FLLPc7QYaSU

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    7. ^ Ahah! That guy on YouTube and Oluv (the person running this blog) are the same.

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    8. I know ... I was here because I wanted to find out when the JBL Xtreme was coming out in the U.S.

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    9. Just contacted JBL. Their representative said it will not be released to the U.S. :(
      "Unfortunately Extreme won't be released in the U.S. however JBL Charge2 and Charge 2+ are available in the U.S."
      -Sam "Team JBL"

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    10. I called them also on Saturday August 22nd and they told me the first week in September the Xtreme would be released in the U.S. So now I'm not sure what to think!...:-(

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    11. When is the jbl is going too come out

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    12. http://www.electronicsforless.ca/jbl-xtreme-portable-wireless-bluetooth-speaker-black-4472.html

      its out in canada i cant wait to get it my extreme as i love my jbl charge

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  2. Did my last comment got lost? Anyway, really looking forward for this because of the tweeters! As good as full range drivers can be, nothing delivers good highs as a proper tweeter. Hope you can have this in your hands for review soon :)

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    1. I contacted Harman once if they would like to add me to their tester-list, but they ignored my inquiry. i was the first who brought up the problems with the JBL Charge 2, they could have saved lots of trouble if they knew about these problems before. there are still people who have to deal with old firmwares that cannot be easily updated without sending the speaker in etc.
      Unfortunately I cannot afford buying any speaker that appears on the market, therfore I am not sure I will be able to test all these units.

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    2. I perfectly understand, and the fact that you actually buy your stuff is another reason why I really trust your reviews. JBL managed really badly the firmware issue with Charge 2, as far as I'm conerned they "payed" it, since I bought the Denon instead, but many uninformed users probably don't even know they can have the update.

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  3. Hi Oluv,

    Thank you for the news! I closely follow your YouTube channel and now your blog!

    Do you have any personal predictions on the availability of JBL Xtreme? Maybe you could interpolate based off timelines of previous products releases, from the time it leaked to the time it was available in stores?

    Also, do you have an educated guess on the price? I was thinking, since Xtreme could be based off Infinity One, minus the expensive ceramic coating, it could be priced for at least $250, maybe even $300, seeing as it could sound better than Infinity One. On the other hand, if Xtreme is the next generation of the Charge lineup, and is an upgrade of Charge 2/2+, then it should not be priced much higher than $150, or at most $200. What are your thoughts?

    Thank you

    Boris

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    1. I estimate a price of 250-300$ for the Xtreme. But it could even be below like 229 maybe, but I doubt above 300. I really have no idea about the official announcement, they don't even know these products at Harman so far. Seems to be some internally leaked video, I wonder Mediamarkt can publish these. But I think these have to be announced as soon as possible as they are all summer type of speakers, summer is near so they would be late to the party bringing them in September.

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    2. Also, I wanted to add that this video you linked doesn't look fake. It is completely identical in how it's made to other videos I saw that announced, for example, Charge 2+ or Clip+. All the sound effects, visual effects, and the way the video lists features are similar to other JBL videos.

      Unfortunately, I just bought the Charge 2+ (in sunny yellow!), and would really prefer Xtreme over Charge 2+, seeing how Charge 2+ is not really splash resistant. The exposed USB ports are killing me, and I wish there was a manufacturer that would make a simple rubber cover that plugs into the ports, similar to what Riva Turbo X has. If that happened, I'll stick with Charge 2+. Otherwise, I'll sell it when Xtreme comes out.

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    3. cannot you return the charge 2+? don't you have any 30-days return policy?

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    4. HEY GUYS ITS OUT IN UNITED STATE AND IN CANADA JBL EXTREME

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  4. I can return the Charge 2+, but then I'd have to be without a speaker for a couple of months until Xtreme comes out =(. So I'll keep Charge 2+ and sell it later.

    And one last thing, I think something is wrong internally at JBL/Harman as a company. When I was at Harman store in New York City last week, they had a brand-new small Bluetooth speaker. It has a rectangular shape, and is about a size of two or three cigarette packs stacked together. It has 5 or 6 hours of battery life, and a speakerphone. It's water-resistant, too.

    The thing is, the employees at the store didn't know anything about that speaker other than what's above. They didn't receive any marketing materials or other sales documents. Also, this speaker is not available online.

    So I'm not sure how you know that "they don't even know about these products at Harman so far", but it's not surprising to me. I would imagine, they don't know anything about this new speaker that's already in their stores!

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    1. you probably have seen the Harman Kardon One? I think this was a special edition to come out with the HTC One. It is hardly available and probably only through Harman Kardon directly:
      http://at.harmankardon.com/harman-kardon-product-detail_at/hk-hkone.html?gclid=CjwKEAjw4-SrBRDP483GvreDr2ASJAD5sCIuvaKPunQgAkLoaJHkF1mBo750UV0XVvqPUVPaJxdUHhoCb5Tw_wcB

      I already asked myself how this one sounds, it looks pretty good I think.

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    2. No, it was made of colored plastic with rubber coating. I saw three colors: dull dark blue, grey, and black, I think. I will try to take a picture sometime this week. The sales people said it retailed for $40 or something like that. And its size is about half of Harman Kardon One, if not smaller.

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    3. JBL Go then?
      http://at.jbl.com/jbl_product_detail_at/jbl-go-blue.html

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    4. That's it! It's not on the US website for some reason. I would imagine that Xtreme will appear on the Austrian website first =).

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  5. Check this out:

    http://us.johnlewis.com/store/jbl-xtreme-bluetooth-splashproof-portable-speaker/p1979198?#default

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    1. So, if that product description is accurate, there are no tweeters on this speaker, after all. And that thing in the back sure does look a lot like a zipper, so I'm curious to see how that will work, water-resistance-wise.
      But that price tag... Ouch! Puts it in the same league of the Bose SoundLink III, I think. It better deliver an amazing sound and totally blow away the Charge 2+, if JBL really wishes to keep that hefty price.
      I'm definitely looking forward to get to know more about this new JBL Xtreme speaker!

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  6. Man oh man im dying to know more! !! ...hoping to see some reviews soon from clavinetjunkie on this...JBL connect is a feature ive been hopimg they would add in soon! If the Reviews are satisfactory i will buy 2 for Sure!!! Was gonna get an infinity one in Jan 2016 till i ran into this!!!! Gonna heave them b4 the years end!

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    1. I'm thinking next year some time for the U.S. The Charge 2+ was released this month and its selling good. They'll release this in the states as the Charge 3 early next year. Maybe even Christmas.

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  7. What is your release prediction for a newer version of the Charge 2+ with the JBL Connect feature included?

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  8. Somebody knows somwthing about U.S.? im waiting for this amazing speaker here in new york.

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    2. Just contacted JBL. Their representative said it will not be released to the U.S. :(
      "Unfortunately Extreme won't be released in the U.S. however JBL Charge2 and Charge 2+ are available in the U.S."
      -Sam "Team JBL"

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  9. It's out now in the U.S.! I just bought one on their website!

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  10. I purchased 2 and will be returning both as neither play for longer then 7hours after full charge. Box says 15hour battery life.

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