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Tuesday, June 16, 2015

News: JBL Xtreme available for preorder for 299€

The JBL Xtreme is already listed for preorder on the European JBL Site and should be available from 25.6.
There are new details regarding power and battery, and this Xtreme thing will have a 10.000mAh battery built in, which is obviously necessary to power the 40Watts amp.
The battery indicator is similar to the one on the Infinity One, but it was moved to the front now (clever!) As visible from the other product images the JBL Xtreme has an own kind of zipper to protect the ports. They finally seem to take water protection more serious with the Xtreme than with the Charge 2+, which has the ports completely unprotected.


Could be a real beast of a speaker, making the UE Megaboom sound funny...

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  1. I WANT ONE!! TAKE MY MONEY!!... I just need to get rich first.
    This one definitely interests me more than the Charge 2+, so I'm hoping that future reviews (which I will read carefully before even attempting to buy it) will confirm that it deserves the higher price tag. I'm also curious to see how the Xtreme will perform against the Riva S. Here's hoping you'll be able to get one of these bad boys for some proper testing, Oluv!

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    1. I am not sure the Xtreme is quite comparable to the Charge 2+ as it seems much larger, it is even larger than the Infinity One and larger than the RIVA Turbo X, according to the specs 2kg, thus in a completely different class than the RIVA S.
      Btw, I will hopfeully get mine soon :-)

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    2. I knew it was bigger than the Charge 2, but I completely missed its hefty weight: 2kg... Wow! I can see how it plays in a different league than that of the Riva S and Charge 2. It must be one heck of a speaker to annoy the neighbours! From what you said before I'm guessing it will be sort of equivalent to the UE Megaboom (a speaker I was very interested in until I read your review), but actually good. I'm hoping it's more or less the same size of the UE Megaboom (I can't visualize the size of the Infinity One right now), or at least not that much bigger, so that it can still be portable enough. The price really puts me off, but should it be a reflection of its sound quality and I will definitely consider it for becoming my ultimate portable bluetooth speaker :D
      It's awesome to know that you're getting one soon, I'm already waiting impatiently for your thoughts and tests on the new JBL Xtreme!

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    3. It should be comparable to the Beats Pill XL (which does not quite exist anymore as Apple pulled them all). But the Pill XL is still longer, although thinner, the Xtreme is probably a bit fatter, here I compared the Infinity One and Pill XL side by side:
      http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HQBzP-aolzE/VDMrROgGfmI/AAAAAAAACtE/eTn407AvuvI/s1600/infinity-pillxl.jpg

      The Megaboom is still slimmer than the Infinity One but about the same lenght, although the Megaboom has only 1kg.

      I think the best competitor for the Xtreme will be the upcoming Fugoo XL, which was postponed to August now...

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    4. Thanks for that pic, it does help me getting a clearer idea of the size of the Xtreme. It should be quite the monstrosity, then! Not so sure if I'd like something that big and heavy, as I intend to move it around often.

      So, if the Xtreme doesn't have some tweeters like you previously assumed from the Media Markt video, do you think that will impact the expected sound quality that much? I mean, at least treble-wise, because, being it such a monster speaker from JBL, we can most certainly expect some nice deep and proper bass.

      I haven't heard of the Fugoo XL before but, to be honest, your blog is where I get to know about upcoming speakers first. I'm guessing you'd like to have a go at that Fugoo XL as well, so I'll wait for your (hopefully) in-depth thoughts on the JBL Xtreme, RIVA S and Fugoo XL (and whatever may come in the meantime). It's a good thing that I only plan to get one of these bad boys by November (my birthday, eheh!) :)

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    5. I indeed contated Fugoo about a review unit of the XL, but got no response. They were very responsive before and they sent me the small Fugoo for a review, but since then the contact got lost somehow, a pity, as the XL looks pretty promising, it also floats on water, prefect speaker to use at the pool or on a beach.
      I am pretty sure the Xtreme has tweeters, it is too large to not have ones, they can't rely simply on full-range drivers this time as they tried with the Infinity One, the result was quite mixed and the intermodulation at high levels pretty obvious. I hope the Xtreme will be up to the level of the Onyx which is a great sounding unit too, I just with they will tune it better for low levels, as the Onyx was rather tinny and just started to shine at levels close to half.

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    6. I didn't see any mention to tweeters on the JBL website, and I think that'd be something they would like to mention in a product description, specially when boasting of how awesome and "extreme" their new speaker is. But maybe they just "forgot" about it and the Xtreme will, indeed, be a more "complete" speaker than it appears to be. It will be loud, that's for sure.

      I'm assuming that you've already reached out to JBL and they've agreed to send you a review unit of the Xtreme? If that's so, good! Too bad about Fugoo, indeed, but maybe they're just taking longer to reply because their speaker won't be available until August and, as such, they're not able to provide you with a test unit for now.

      Regarding the Xtreme, I have something to ask you, if possible. I already know you will surely do an in-depth test regarding its sound quality and compare it with the competition, because it's what you do. But JBL claims in their website that, and I quote, "you can even clean it with running tap water". So, could you please try doing just that and see how it goes? I'm curious about how "extreme" will the Xtreme be regarding that (of course, it can't be submerged in water), but I understand if you don't want to risk it.

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    7. No, JBL ignored me. I had once a promotional contact at Harman, but this time got no response from them regarding their upcoming products. They obviously prefer reviews from Cnet or WhatHIfi etc, than from some real enthusiast. I was the first who brought up the problems with the JBL Charge 2, no other review site even mentioned them. Maybe I am a thorn in their side now...

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    8. from site of jbl, it's have tweeters

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    9. Ah, I see... Since you said you'd get one soon, and given its expensive price, I thought Harman had provided you with a review unit. The lack of communication sucks, but it is often a given when it comes to big corporate companies, sadly. I know someone who reached out to both Bose and JBL regarding some of their bluetooth speakers and Bose was quick, polite and helpful in their reply, whereas JBL just stood silent. Companies should really give more credit to costumer service... But I'm digressing a bit now. I remember reading lots of good reviews of the Charge 2 and eventually bumping into your video on YouTube pointing out that particular speaker's problems. The thing is, you may not have the exposure of Cnet or WhatHiFi or Engadget or whatever, but I did several simple searches on YouTube for bluetooth speakers that I was interested in and your videos always showed in the search results. Your blog may be more difficult to find, but I assure you that your YouTube videos are growing in popularity, because more people seem to be interested in portable bluetooth speakers and they obviously turn to YouTube to try to hear them or get to know more about them. And your videos are always there. Of course that Harman doesn't care about that (or even realizes it), but it's their loss, since people interested in buying their speakers will eventually bump into your videos on YouTube, it's almost impossible not to.

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    10. @Anon: I honestly didn't notice any reference to tweeters on both the international European and UK page of the JBL website. Maybe I've just missed that information (again, sigh!).

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    11. Regarding tweeters, that's the info from the spec sheet PDF:

      Transducer: Woofer 2 x 63mm
      Tweeter: 2 x 35mm

      http://de.jbl.com/tl_files/catalog//jbl/multimedia/Specsheets/Xtreme/Specification%20sheet%20-%20JBL%20Xtreme%20%28English%29.pdf

      The only thing that worries me is that 40W seem to be only available from AC-power:
      Rated power: 2 x 20W Bi-amp (AC mode)

      Could be again one of those wannabe speakers from JBL that sound either worse from battery or just not as loud as it was the case with most of their old on-tour stuff, the go&play etc...

      Time will tell!

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    12. Ah! That explains why I failed to notice the tweeters reference: I never looked into the specs sheet.
      That AC-power-only thing sounds disappointing... The speaker is quite expensive, so it should be a remarkable performer, regardless of it being plugged in or not. But, like you said, time will tell, so let's wait for you to get your hands on it :)

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  2. Given the weight of over 2 kilograms and the rated power of 2 x 20W, I suspect it won't be better than the Bose Sounddock portable or Soundlink Air, which are in the same weight class. I never found any wattage specs of Bose speakers (except their L1 PA systems), but I would rate the Sounddock portable more than 2 x 20 W RMS from my experience.

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    1. The Sounddock portable should be also 40W according to my friend who took his apart and analyzed the built in amp.
      It depends what you define as "better", but the Bose is not that great, very colored sound. It is very loud but only thanks to extreme dynamic compression with strong distortion at the same time.
      A battle between these two will definitely be interesting.

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    2. I don't doubt your friend's examination, but if the Sounddock portable/Soundlink Air really only has 40 W in total, the 120 W of the Beolit 12 appear very exaggerated. I compared them side by side, and the Soundlink Air was definitely louder and had a little more bass, although the bass of the Beolit 12 was cleaner especialy at high volume levels.

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    3. I wouldn't go after any wattage-claims, there are irrelevant for a portable speakers. B&O even claims 140W for their Beoplay A2, ridiculous!

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  3. Well, I really like the idea of the ports behind a waterproof zipper.

    Oluv, what do you think of my idea for the perfect JBL Charge 2+ case: get the below case, and sew in a waterproof zipper, just like on Xtreme? What do you think its sound transparency would be?

    My other idea for protecting the ports was asking somebody to make me a rubber mold that would cover the ports. Sort of like the port cover that Riva Turbo X has. What do you think?

    http://smile.amazon.com/Molded-Foam-Shell-Charge-Speaker/dp/B00SZ9QYDU/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1434556418&sr=8-7&keywords=jbl+charge+2+case

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    1. there's third-party port covers on Amazon

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    2. I'd like to know the same thing, as I've been unable to find anything like that on Amazon.

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    3. I'd like to know the same thing, as I've been unable to find anything like that on Amazon.

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  4. The JBL looks great on paper, hope it lives up to the hype. What a great summer it is turning out to be for new bluetooth speaker releases. Keep a look out too for the Vifa Helsinki releasing at the end of this month:

    http://www.vifa.dk/products/helsinki/

    I would not put it as a direct competitor to the JBL in terms of styling. At 399 euro, It is priced somewhere between the JBL Xtreme and the Beolit 15. The specs of the Vifa look interesting:
    2 x 60mm Woofers, 2 x 50mm full range drivers and 2 passive radiators
    AptX Bluetooth and NFC
    No word on battery life

    I hope to pick up either the JBL or the Vifa depending on how the reviews pan out.

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    1. Cool speaker, thanks for pointing me towards this, a bit girlish though. I think it rather competes with the Beoplay A2, probably quite refined sound at low levels, but struggling at higher levels, while the JBL Xtreme looks like a real rough powerhorse.

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    2. Hi Oluv, would be great to hear your thoughts on this if possible. I agree definitely girly, I don't really care too much though as it will be kept indoors! I bought the Beolit 15 after watching your youtube review and it's also somewhat girly, but definitely compensates with the fantastic sound.

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    3. I knew that I heard about Vifa before, I remember their Copenhagen when it was presented, but I thought it was crazy expensive and quite large too. Not many reviews about it though... at least it didn't seem to get much attention.
      I wrote them an email if they would be interested in providing a review unit, I doubt though, but who knows...
      The Beolit 15 is really "phat", i had it at home and it was just too much regarding bass, the whole house started to drone, it was much better outdoors and i could walk around it without losing much quality, quite impressive.

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  6. Love the JBL Charge line... had the one and 2 Charge 2's down to one. Was gonna get an infinity one until i saw this!!! Strike me as a Charge 3 with all its upgrades and feature...literally has everything i was hoping they would do with the next Charge...Even the Size!!! Cant wait to give this a shot!!! Hope it doesnt dissapoint as i intended to buy 2!!! So happy for the JBL Connect feature!!! Been waiting for it!!!

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  7. Love the JBL Charge line... had the one and 2 Charge 2's down to one. Was gonna get an infinity one until i saw this!!! Strike me as a Charge 3 with all its upgrades and feature...literally has everything i was hoping they would do with the next Charge...Even the Size!!! Cant wait to give this a shot!!! Hope it doesnt dissapoint as i intended to buy 2!!! So happy for the JBL Connect feature!!! Been waiting for it!!!

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  10. Hi Oluv,

    could you already prepare a comparison between the JBL extrem and the Teufel Boomster, like you mentioned in the "HiFi-Forum? I would be glad to hear your opinion. I already have the Boomster and are wondering about getting the Extrem for outdoor. I think the Boomster is a clear speaker, also at high volume level, but I already have scratches at the display. So it is not very good for outdoor use.

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    1. I cannot say when I will have time to prepare a comparison between these two, but you can hear them already hear side by side:
      http://switcher.oluvsgadgets.net/?vidone=e6BjxM0vF_Q&vidtwo=ptYMgvv9WM4
      I recorded the Boomster with bass turned up +2 otherwise it would sound too thin compared to the JBL Xtreme, the Xtreme has obvious tuning for outdoors with lots of bass. You can hear that the JBL sounds louder than the Boomster with most tracks, but the Boomster sounds more relaxed at maximum volume. Battery life is comparable for both, i got around 5:30 for both at maximum. If portability and ruggedness is important I would definitely go with the JBL, the Boomster has hardly any advantages.

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  11. Hello Oluv,

    thanks to your reviews I bought a Xtreme and I am extremely happy with it. I was thinking of buying a second one to be able to support a bigger Party. I was wondering if you already tested the JBL Connect feature including the range of this option. Would be great to know how good this is working. Thank you!

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    1. I just prepared a video showing of the possibilities of JBL Connect, it is not always 100% stable though, but if it works it is pretty impressive: https://youtu.be/JXSL4VPMenk

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  12. Thank you. Will watch this ASAP. :)

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